tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post3568282434965556618..comments2024-01-31T06:27:26.478+08:00Comments on Ecce Ego, Quia Vocasti Me: Interesting TimesArchistrategoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05495771160792293715noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post-10349600184508535172020-01-21T16:46:41.301+08:002020-01-21T16:46:41.301+08:00OMG!! This is certainly a shocking and a genuine T...OMG!! This is certainly a shocking and a genuine Testimony..I visited a forum here on the internet on the 20TH OF JUNE 2019, And i saw a marvelous testimony of this heard nor learnt anything about magic before.. Not a soul would have been able to influence me about magical spells, not until Dr.Wealthy did it for me and restored my marriage of 8 years back to me and brought my spouse back to me in the same 24 hours just as i read on the internet..i was truly astonished and shocked when my husband knelt down begging for forgiveness and for me to accept him back.. I am really short of expressions, and i don't know how much to convey my appreciation to you Dr.Wealthy you are a God sent to me and my entire family<br />you also need help just email him on wealthylovespell@gmail.com or call his number +2348105150446Jessica L. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13408448099656902268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post-32619887284086442772007-05-08T22:28:00.000+08:002007-05-08T22:28:00.000+08:00^ I know what you mean. Icons are definitely VERY ...^ I know what you mean. Icons are definitely VERY beautiful things, both physically and theologically, but that is just the problem: they are sometimes TOO pretty and too perfect to be useful.Archistrategoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05495771160792293715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post-31803193801439246362007-05-08T22:20:00.000+08:002007-05-08T22:20:00.000+08:00This is why I find the cult of Byzantine icons in ...This is why I find the cult of Byzantine icons in the West a little unsettling. Icons can be too sanitized, theoretical, and a-historical for the Westtern man. They do not engage him, and therefore he can still "keep his distance", thus not challenging the now prevalent crypto-Protestant atheism that I think is spreading itself with postmodernity.Arturo Vasquezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09674281914540496859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post-3207761695612825772007-05-08T18:11:00.000+08:002007-05-08T18:11:00.000+08:00^ That is spot on, Andrew. I like AWN Pugin church...^ That is spot on, Andrew. I like AWN Pugin churches as much as any sane Catholic, but I also think that such parishes done in 'bad taste' (i.e., excessively ornamented baroque)have their own merits. It was these churches, after all, where our grandfathers knelt, where missionaries prayed, where images of the Virgin and saints were crowned, where Our Lord descended from heaven. True, there is a tendency for it to look too human sometimes; but then again, wasn't the whole point of the Incarnation precisely this? That God humbled Himself before his creation in order to redeem us? Truly, His love knows no equal. To this extent, He has loved us-- obedient even unto death on the Cross.<BR/><BR/>I personally find Protestants who pine against images as blasphemous as being slightly insane, in a bad way. At least the devotion of the people who do these things is real, for the most part. Where our ancestors flogged Him and drove nails into His flesh, we now adorn His head with golden crowns, and the robes that bound His hands are now made of silk. IMHO, Protestantism tends to gloss over these things considerably, so that what you have left is practically a joke, and one that isn't even funny in the first place.Archistrategoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05495771160792293715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post-31757661094369853292007-05-08T18:00:00.000+08:002007-05-08T18:00:00.000+08:00But I guess what I wanted to say was this. God bec...But I guess what I wanted to say was this. God became man, in the great Divine Condescension, not only to redeem and to atone, but also to share in the condition of humanity as an exemplar, to identify with us and be one of us so that we can identify with Him and emulate Him.<BR/><BR/>The gaudy images which you describe do the same thing. It makes Jesus identifiable to the people. <BR/><BR/>We're not theorists living in a world of ideas but humans living in a world enfleshed. The statues of the Virgin dressed as a Spanish Queen or an Indian Empress as Our Lady of Vailankanni and the Santo Nino dressed as a Royal Child makes them identifiable to the people. They are not made remote, as one looking from the outside would think, but they become, rather, someone whom the people can imagine, within their culture and experience, someone the people can relate to.<BR/><BR/>But still, what helps one person from one culture to get closer to God might drive another away. The Black Nazarene procession down the streets of New York or a statue of Our Lady of Vailankanni set up in downtown Dublin might be a little too much. But this is because the people there can't identify with those images. They are instead an obstacle to faith, a barrier to a relationship with the Person those images symbolize.<BR/><BR/>I think that's an important point to make.<BR/><BR/>Doubtless, the sanitized version of Christianity-lite that many in the West experience these days can use a good dose of Christ Crucified and bloodied, to remind them of what their sins have done and the cost of the atonement which was paid in full by the blood of Christ Jesus, context and presentation need to be formed by the culture of the people so that the message gets across.<BR/><BR/>What do you think?Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356738924839809045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post-28950214800393527432007-05-08T17:42:00.000+08:002007-05-08T17:42:00.000+08:00Haha... I started with a defence of popular piety ...Haha... I started with a defence of popular piety and ended up with a discourse on the Real Presence and healing faith =) Talk about getting sidetracked.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356738924839809045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28475889.post-77951478230769541852007-05-07T22:38:00.000+08:002007-05-07T22:38:00.000+08:00I might add that this was originally supposed to b...I might add that this was originally supposed to be a defense of bad taste alone, but it got sidetracked along the way. I think I ended up liking the end product more than what I originally had in mind.Archistrategoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05495771160792293715noreply@blogger.com